The experience of Watching The Infinity Saga connect to Agents of Shield was Truly a first and maybe only of its kind experience. Even if it’s never mentioned by Movies besides once.
Yes,
The Netflix marvel shows are great but what people who didn’t watch agents of shield while it was airing, and haven’t watched it all don’t get how truly cool, connected, and expansive it made the MCU feel. Going to the movies and being able to watch the aftermath of what happened in a MCU movie is so cool.
Some of the best ones was being able to go watch Thor: Dark world and then watch Agents of shield have to clean it up and confiscate Alien weapons found by civilians After the avengers protected New York. Then seeing the effects of Captain America the winter soldier play out further in agents of shield was great to say the least. So many more ties that just truly made the MCU feel like it was real events happening to people in that universe.
When we get to see Raina telling us about flying robots in the sky and seeing Loki’s scepter. Coulson telling Maria hill where to find it and sending the avengers leading into going to the movies to see Avengers: Age of ultron. That was truly a different experience that no other tv show and movies have offered to the same immersion of Quality consistent writing and storytelling. Wandavision leading into Doctor strange: multiverse of madness was honestly confusing and disappointing. Didn’t quite match the characters trajectory that wandavision left off on with her kids saying for her to save them. Yes she was reading the darkhold, but it leading into her somehow chasing American through the multiverse for her kids didn’t make a lot of sense honestly.
Watching captain America: civil war that movie seemed pretty self contained, how do you see the effects of what they were even fighting about? (Which is another reason why I think civil war isn’t really a good movies, just a peeing match between iron man and captain America, I digress). Agents of shield shows you the effects of the registration as Daisy Johnson sits in court having to answer about being a powered individual who at one point was operating as a vigilante. Now is forced to register as she is reinstated as an agent of shield.
These are just some of the reasons why Agents of shield is truly unique among marvel shows. It’s the only way really the effects of the movies were explored or could even really feel like an event, that was vaguely referenced in the next assembled movie. The fact the movies truly did connect with Agents of shield. The fact that you could see a movie and watch the aftermath in agents of shield. The one time the movie did acknowledge the show by avengers: age of ultron. It was truly a different experience from watching the other marvel shows.
You want to see the effects of the last movie? Just wait 2-4 years, so we can barely mention it, and you get to feel like it’s all connected. People are Quick to say agents of shield isn’t good etc, but not even understand what makes the show amazing and seriously unique. The MCU needs to bring back the agents of shield connections style MCU shows. Agents of shield’s format is part of what made it incredible.
The Netflix marvel shows are great but what people who didn’t watch agents of shield while it was airing, and haven’t watched it all don’t get how truly cool, connected, and expansive it made the MCU feel. Going to the movies and being able to watch the aftermath of what happened in a MCU movie is so cool.
Some of the best ones was being able to go watch Thor: Dark world and then watch Agents of shield have to clean it up and confiscate Alien weapons found by civilians After the avengers protected New York. Then seeing the effects of Captain America the winter soldier play out further in agents of shield was great to say the least. So many more ties that just truly made the MCU feel like it was real events happening to people in that universe.
When we get to see Raina telling us about flying robots in the sky and seeing Loki’s scepter. Coulson telling Maria hill where to find it and sending the avengers leading into going to the movies to see Avengers: Age of ultron. That was truly a different experience that no other tv show and movies have offered to the same immersion of Quality consistent writing and storytelling. Wandavision leading into Doctor strange: multiverse of madness was honestly confusing and disappointing. Didn’t quite match the characters trajectory that wandavision left off on with her kids saying for her to save them. Yes she was reading the darkhold, but it leading into her somehow chasing American through the multiverse for her kids didn’t make a lot of sense honestly.
Watching captain America: civil war that movie seemed pretty self contained, how do you see the effects of what they were even fighting about? (Which is another reason why I think civil war isn’t really a good movies, just a peeing match between iron man and captain America, I digress). Agents of shield shows you the effects of the registration as Daisy Johnson sits in court having to answer about being a powered individual who at one point was operating as a vigilante. Now is forced to register as she is reinstated as an agent of shield.
These are just some of the reasons why Agents of shield is truly unique among marvel shows. It’s the only way really the effects of the movies were explored or could even really feel like an event, that was vaguely referenced in the next assembled movie. The fact the movies truly did connect with Agents of shield. The fact that you could see a movie and watch the aftermath in agents of shield. The one time the movie did acknowledge the show by avengers: age of ultron. It was truly a different experience from watching the other marvel shows.
You want to see the effects of the last movie? Just wait 2-4 years, so we can barely mention it, and you get to feel like it’s all connected. People are Quick to say agents of shield isn’t good etc, but not even understand what makes the show amazing and seriously unique. The MCU needs to bring back the agents of shield connections style MCU shows. Agents of shield’s format is part of what made it incredible.
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Again, huge fan of the show. Just let's not go crazy here lol
5th out of 34. This took me 5 seconds to web search.
The point is, all of us have different opinions and tastes when it comes to these things, but just because one does not agree with you 100% doesn’t make them any less of a “true fan” than you.
PS: and in case you misread my first comment, I said I KIND OF DISAGREE, meaning that I only partially disagree because I, too, believe that AoS is one of the best Marvel series out of everything they have produced and believes that it is canon regardless of what other people say about it.
900 posts a day? Silly.
Bots? Silly. Fans of AoS exist.
Astroturfed? Silly. How is this a fake grass roots movement intended to hide the corporate sponsor behind it? Do you really think Disney is spending money to have people post about Aos to this sub?
(Also features our player playing Gwenpool for those that know the character ahaha).
I'm a massive fan of Quake in particular but also of Fitzsimmons so of course I'm featuring them heavily from here on out.
I know you're getting heat for this post but I feel people really don't get how good it actually is.
Saying it's nostalgia is absolutely incorrect.
Yes they had less budget than the other series that have come out since but narratively and character design wise they are MUCH more rich, actually take time building out the characters and their dynamics.
It's a shame they haven't connected it back so far but I genuinely think it's a matter of time: the MCU feels less grounded without the very logical intervention of a government funded agency policing their actions. It just makes sense!
There's a reason the SHIELD agency is so central in the comics and always has a SHIELD director intervening during major events or doing spy work to uncover some issue.
Side note: Captain Marvel came out before Agents of S.h.I.E.L.D. ended.
Turns out, he was a skrull during that part so that explains his lack of quips.
I love Clark Gregg's portrayal.
Jesus Christ. You’re really impressed with your own superior opinion aren’t you?
Nobody is getting angry that you’ve crushed their view about shows like Daredevil. Because you haven’t. And because that’s insane.
I only watched it for the first time just a few months ago so I don’t have nostalgia for it. But it’s clear that Marvel had the whole “tv” thing FAR more figured out back then than they do now
So, any microscopic minuscule contribution I can give to mayyyybe somehow someway get Marvel to know we want that form of tv back again, I’m gonna try.
I would genuinely rewatch all 7 seasons of AoS, or a big rewatch binge of all Netflix shows before I’d ever consider rewatching a shorter D+ show like Secret Invasion, She Hulk, FatWS, Moon Knight, Echo, IronHeart, Ms Marvel, What If, etc etc. And I think that’s so telling.
Season 4 was absolute peak though
Out of curiosity, what is considered great for you?
As for No way home, I think the movie is flawed but it is nevertheless a good movie.
A great movie is a movie I love and was a technical achievement. Mostly a 9+/10 movie for me is great. In the CBM world, Dark Knight is an example. Into and Across the Spider Verse, or Avengers Infinity War, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor Ragnarok etc.
I don’t have a clear definition and it’s very subjective for me.
I was part of the latter group as are others here, but I kept watching. IMO, AoS ends when Ghost Rider walks through the portal and half assed fan fiction takes over. Zeke is the most annoying, useless character in all of Marvel’s many canons. Maybe in all of American capeshit fiction, I certainly can’t think of a worse character. The constant time travel is classic TV writers spinning their wheels because they don’t know about renewal and don’t want to tell an incomplete story.
It’s a wildly overrated show because the people left watching it by the time that it ended were only the superfans. Everyone else had been turned off by its many poor story choices. The massive Astroturfing campaign we are experiencing isn’t going to rewrite history.
I'd say just skip to 4 but suffering through the first and second season makes it all so much better because they call back to damn near everything later on.
To me it was like an appetizer. A treat for those who wanted something in between that was loosely connected. Thinking the "it's all connected" line certain people said also didn't help with opinions.
That's the bit people like to forget
Tony doesn’t find out until near the end of the film. It’s not what the Avengers were quarrelling about.
So AoS genuinely contributed a lot to making me feel satisfied about MCU.
The lack of interconnection never bothered me cuz I was used to other people not showing up despite the huge events unravelling since IM3.
The Hydra storyline was incredible though. They really made that impact feel meaningful in that show.
You can appreciate that x did y. But other people prefer to focus on media that they feel is better. A lot of people just don't think AoS was able to be taken seriously due to how campy it was.
Feels hypocritical cuz writing quality and genre wise its on similar level to pre Endgame MCU, and vastly superior to majority of the D+ shows.(Only Loki and maybe Daredevil Born Again are comparable)
You can’t make a movie dependent on watching a D+ show. But you can make a show dependent on the movie. People who are going to D+ for more Marvel content are inherently interested in the lore. That’s not always as true for movies.
What does this even mean?
I watched the first season on air. And the 2nd one had too many new characters for me and I stopped watching.
But now, I'm enjoying being able to watch a movie and then a season and see the after effects of the events in a movie.
I'm about to start s3.
It’s the template I wish Marvel would follow with the Disney+ show. I would eat up a traditional show season with She Hulk or Ms Marvel. Give us time to explore the world and get to know characters.
I guess he just thought different things were just happening in the world with no explanation or follow up on some of them. Like, Sif shows up with little to no introduction and he just rolled with it. All of the sudden, the entirety of Shield is evil and that’s just how it is now.
always fascinated me.